Grant Round 2020.4 Final Amount V2 vote

[Nolan Bauer]

Due to my ineptness, the previous minor discussion and poll was invalid due to it being open to all community members. I am reposting this discussion and poll. Please let me know if this appears to be wrong again. I will plan to shut down the discussion early since there was no input on the previous thread on this subject.

In accordance with Doc 107, the Standing Parties must approve the grant round amount with 3/5 vote.

Here is a breakdown of the report I ran on block 267862:

Current block: 267862
Current round: 2020.4
Activation block: 272726
Payout block: 273726
Payout date: 2020-12-01
Existing Grant Pool: 117862.0968
Grant round contribution to payout date: 58280
Grant pool at payout date: 174380.675832

This calculation provides a 1% buffer to the valuation. If we were to provide a 3% buffer, the valuation is closer to 170,000FCT (170857.833896FCT).

Open to discussions and ultimate approval for the final amount.

 

[Chappie]

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[PaulSnow]

I'm fine with a 1% buffer.

 

[Niels Klomp]

I am fine either way. I think there is something to be said for 3% given there are leftover FCT from previous round regardless and 3% being the safe option if other ANO(s) decide to lower their efficiency. Then there is still a little bit reserved for stuff like the currently paused bug bounty program

 

[Nolan Bauer]

My apologies again for the redundancy on the threads.

 

[PaulSnow]

I am fine either way. I think there is something to be said for 3% given there are leftover FCT from previous round regardless and 3% being the safe option if other ANO(s) decide to lower their efficiency. Then there is still a little bit reserved for stuff like the currently paused bug bounty program

Likely to be under subscribed again. That would absorb any error. Any short fall in the range of 2% amounts to ~3400 fct more or less. That's is easily made up by a delay in issuing the tokens by one to three days, or even just ignored. (The grant pool grows a bit over 1000 tokens a day. A slight error would be covered very quickly)

 

[Niels Klomp]

If it is likely under subscribed again then we have the more reason to go on the cautionary side with 3%.

Knocks on hard wood, we haven't had a stall for quite some time. We don't know what some ANOs will be doing with their efficiency at these low FCT prices and a probably under subscription. 170k seems fine to me

 

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[PaulSnow]

Still happy with 1%.

I see no reason for wider margins. (Not needing the margin does not justify higher margins)

Mitigation of an overrun is easily addressed. We can do one or more of the following:

1. Adjust the limit prior to closing grant discussions.
2. Reduce grants proportionately before activation
3. Ignore the temporary over issue of tokens, as it self corrects quickly
4. Delay activation until tokens are available

 

[Niels Klomp]

@PaulSnow That all deviates from what we have in governance. Can we please just keep this simple and go with the 170K. I think everyone in here has better things to discuss than the 1% or 3%.

As soon as the vote is open, I hope everyone is okay with voting for 170K FCT for this round as proposed by @Nolan Bauer .

 

[PaulSnow]

@PaulSnow That all deviates from what we have in governance. Can we please just keep this simple and go with the 170K. I think everyone in here has better things to discuss than the 1% or 3%.

As soon as the vote is open, I hope everyone is okay with voting for 170K FCT for this round as proposed by @Nolan Bauer .

That's fine. I thought I was defending the initial estimate, but meh.

Mitigation is still possibly necessary, so it seems helpful to me to list what we might do.

I'm not sure if governance prohibits a response to a failure to accurately predict available tokens, but I'll take your word for it if it does.

 

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